I bought my first cutting program off Jerry over 20 years ago. It was small program Jerry was involved in before SignBlazer. It had 3 or 4 different names and several upgrades. I don't remember the the first name it had, Jerry gave it to me on floppy with no label plus the dongle. The second name it had was "WinCut" then it finished up being called "PostCut". I've hung onto it for sentimental reasons, it uses a dongle and is only 256kb in size and came on one floppy disk with a bonus disk of fonts.