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mountaingraphic

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Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« on: September 28, 2010, 05:31:06 PM »
So I have an order for a cppl hundred tshirts (hahah I dunno how I do it) spot colored but I only have an 8.5x11 printer and was wondering if anybody out there gets their transparencies printed for the larger 18x24 screens? Any help would be greatly appreciated..The shirts are gonna be simple 1 color but the back will have alot of sponsor info on them so it will need to be bigger than 8.5x11 possibly..This kind of brings up another question bout average design size for shirt sizes along with screens per size..Like do you do a 10x10 for sizes small to xl and will this be okay for 1 screen for all those sizes and then do another screen for 2xl,3xl and so forth..ahh lol I got too much shit goin on..lol
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 06:00:16 PM »
Mountain,

I am probably the last person to take screenprinting advice from,
but I've had luck with the good ole cut and paste method. Print the design on multiple sheet and over lay them. As long as it's aligned properly it shouldn't effecy the burn.

Haven't tried for small detailed stuff, it works for me.

midwaste

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 06:13:09 PM »
Depending on how quickly you need the positive, I can print it out a 13x18 transparency and send it to you.
   
This is pretty much the standard size for a 20x24 frame using a 14" squeegee.   I usually try to make the front graphic about 12" wide max and if possible, I try to put the front and the back on one positive/screen, so you can just flip the frame around and do the back.   I rarely make a separate screen for larger sizes, most people aren't willing to pay for it.
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mountaingraphic

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 06:19:43 PM »
thanks paupau but I hardly can print a 8.5x11 well..lol let alone try to line somethin up..lol

Thanks mid I will take ya up on that..I havent gotten the info on everything yet but as soon as I get the info and laid out ill holler at ya...You mind shootin me a pm with a price for something like this
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 08:37:10 PM »
For the sponsorship you should be able to do it with the Letter size, since they're probably a list  of businesses only. Just print in 2 separate films and line up on your screen and expose. Lining up text is not as hard as getting a complex design registered. Use lots of registration marks and go to town.

If you have the artwork post it and I'd see if I can help you.

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 01:28:29 PM »
I can print 24 inches on my dye based Epson. T-shirt forums says, dye base makes a better transparency, than a pigment printer???  I don't know, don't have any transparency material, but if you want to send some, I'll do it for ya.

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 05:50:55 PM »
knucklehead, I was just going to ask........ can you use pigment ink?
I would like to start buying alittle bit of screen printing equipment at a time and wanted to know if I can use the Epson 1100 with pigment that I bought from Cobra.
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midwaste

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 06:34:27 PM »
knucklehead, I was just going to ask........ can you use pigment ink?
I would like to start buying alittle bit of screen printing equipment at a time and wanted to know if I can use the Epson 1100 with pigment that I bought from Cobra.

I'm not knucklehead, but i'll shoot at this.   Lots of people will tell you that dye-based inks work better than pigment.  However, many, many people are using pigment-based inks as they become more popular with manufacturers.  I started with a 1400 with the stock Claria inks (pigment) and have now switched to Cobra pigment.  I haven't been able to tell the difference, both print very dark, crisp positives.  Using a good film and getting your printer settings right is more important than the ink you use. 

When it comes down to it, it's really not that difficult and you don't need all-black cartridge setups or special inks to get a good positive that will burn a perfect step 8 on a test and burn a great screen exposing with a 500W halogen all the way to a 1KW metal halide.
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 09:11:09 PM »
seri-prep in tacoma washington. they are teh best for all your pre-press needs. i have them do 20x22 transparencies when i need them. thay make screens and transparencies up to something like 12x20 feet.

http://www.seri-prep.com/

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 09:55:11 PM »
knucklehead, I was just going to ask........ can you use pigment ink?
I would like to start buying alittle bit of screen printing equipment at a time and wanted to know if I can use the Epson 1100 with pigment that I bought from Cobra.

I'm not knucklehead, but i'll shoot at this.   Lots of people will tell you that dye-based inks work better than pigment.  However, many, many people are using pigment-based inks as they become more popular with manufacturers.  I started with a 1400 with the stock Claria inks (pigment) and have now switched to Cobra pigment.  I haven't been able to tell the difference, both print very dark, crisp positives.  Using a good film and getting your printer settings right is more important than the ink you use.  

When it comes down to it, it's really not that difficult and you don't need all-black cartridge setups or special inks to get a good positive that will burn a perfect step 8 on a test and burn a great screen exposing with a 500W halogen all the way to a 1KW metal halide.

I was only referring to knucklehead because he seemed to kind of question the use of pigment ink in his post.
Great info midwaste.... Thanks.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 11:07:09 PM »
Sorry for the slow response and thanks everyone for the info and the help...I am still waiting to hear back on something but I have found that when using my pigment inks on transparencies that it doesnt print very well(I am probably using too much ink) and just washes out..You can actually see little bubbles in the ink when its on the transparency..I do have it set to best photo and glossy but I am having other issues as for the color profile seems to be way off on my transfers everything seems to be washed out and faded..Oh well somethin else to work on haha Thanks Again
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 02:17:53 AM »
Sorry for the slow response and thanks everyone for the info and the help...I am still waiting to hear back on something but I have found that when using my pigment inks on transparencies that it doesnt print very well(I am probably using too much ink) and just washes out..You can actually see little bubbles in the ink when its on the transparency..I do have it set to best photo and glossy but I am having other issues as for the color profile seems to be way off on my transfers everything seems to be washed out and faded..Oh well somethin else to work on haha Thanks Again

What transparencies are you using?  There is a huge difference between the ones they sell at office stores and those made for screenprinting.  I have my 1400 set to Ultra Heavyweight Matte using Victory Factory films, and a few other minor tweaks.  Not to say it can't be done with 3M Officemax transparencies, because I did it for 9 months, but it's a night and day difference.

Color profile should have nothing whatsoever to do with it.  The image/graphic's color you are printing should be 100% K, not a combination of CMYK.  You may need to change your image from RGB to CMYK as well as converting to grayscale before printing.
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 06:51:34 AM »
This is knucklehead. I was just referring to what I've read on the T-Shirt forum, there's a lot of screen printers on there. If the subject comes up, they say use a dye base printer. I'm not saying you can't/shouldn't use a pigment printer, I don't know, never tried. I was just offering to print the larger transparencies for the guy. Not here to get into a dye vs: pigment pissing match. Only way I know to be sure, is do one with each, and see which one does better.

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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 08:06:53 AM »
For simple designs that are bigger than my printers handle I just cut it out of vinyl and apply it directly to the glass on my exposure unit .... place screen on top .... and expose
The vinyl makes a real good positive. Actually more opaque than printer quality
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Re: Anybody know a source that prints transparencies?
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 08:23:03 AM »
For simple designs that are bigger than my printers handle I just cut it out of vinyl and apply it directly to the glass on my exposure unit .... place screen on top .... and expose
The vinyl makes a real good positive. Actually more opaque than printer quality

when i started i would apply cut vinyl to trans for 1 color stuff. That way  you would have it for future use. Still using some of them that are 2+ yrs old

I also for smaller stuff use my regular hp inljet and vellum tracing paper. Works great for left chest and very cheap compaired to screenprint vellum or transparencies.You just need to know yourexposure unit. Cant expose them as long as you do properly made films.