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wnt4it

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Wanting to get started
« on: August 09, 2010, 08:34:08 AM »
Hello,

I'm currently working with Tshirts/vinyl and many have asked me to step into embroidery.  I've been researching machines and thinking of going with the Brother line.  I'd like to stay under $1500 since I'm just starting and thinking of getting a machine that sews as well as embroiders (just so I can get rid of my sewing machine).  OR should I stay with just the embroidery machine.  Can anyone make any suggestions? 

Also, do I need special software for embroidery; I currently have CorelDraw X5 and WinPCSIGN PRO?

Thanks for all you help. ;D ;D

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 08:48:01 AM »
Those small brothers are pretty good. But the larger 12 and 15 needles are worthless. If you buy a small field machine you will only have people wanting you to do full sized backs and caps. You can use an attachment for caps on a small field but it's not really commercial quality. If it were me, I would not buy a embroidery/sewing machine. Those combo machines are a pain if they break down because you usually lose both capabilities when they break.

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 09:03:06 AM »
Hello,

I'm currently working with Tshirts/vinyl and many have asked me to step into embroidery.  I've been researching machines and thinking of going with the Brother line.  I'd like to stay under $1500 since I'm just starting and thinking of getting a machine that sews as well as embroiders (just so I can get rid of my sewing machine).  OR should I stay with just the embroidery machine.  Can anyone make any suggestions? 

Also, do I need special software for embroidery; I currently have CorelDraw X5 and WinPCSIGN PRO?

Thanks for all you help. ;D ;D

You will need to digitize your files for the embroidery machine to convert the image into stiches..Corel has a digitizing plugin but I dont know what/were to get it. A friend of mine uses it for his stuff.
OS: Windows 7 Design Software: Flexi 8.1 Pro Cutter: 24" Creation Pcut Heat Press: 15x15 Sunie..and a whole list of things I want

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 11:41:04 AM »
Brother does have a great digitizing program. But it costs $5,000.00. I use Melco Design Shop which is to me a bit better than the Brother. But it costs $5,000.00 as well.

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 12:06:37 PM »
Thanks for the info ... this isn't going to be as easy as I hoped.... :o

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 12:13:24 PM »
There are a lot of variables in embroidery. thread thickness, needle thickness, hoop tightness, correct backing and hundreds of other things. And digitizing is even worse because you have to account for stitch density and stitch direction if you want the design to look and lay right. Embird does have a true type text editor which will do most of the fonts on your computer automatically. And you can use Rmbird to digitize with. It just takes a lot of patience. But for a starter editing program it's about the cheapest around.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 02:59:21 PM »
I would save the money towards getting a true commercial embroidery machine. The small sewing/embroidery machines do not have very big hoops and you have to change every color. I started with a small machine and just had a lot of jobs you cannot do.

If you have customers wanting embroidery contract it out. I am sure someone on here is probably one day shipping from you that can handle the big jobs.

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 04:04:44 PM »
I have a sewing background and when thinking about getting into embroidery started looking at home machines. I can not tell you how glad I am that I went commercial. Yes they are expensive, my Barudan singlehead cost $15000+$3000 digitizing software, and the difference in sewout shows. I don't have problems with small fonts or lost registration. You could probably get a good deal on a used 9 needle (about $8000) but you want to make sure it checks out ok by someone that knows.
As for embroidery itself, there is a large learning curve as with anything. Digitizing can be subbed out until you learn. But it's definitely not plug in play. With all that said I'm glad I'm diversified because if one area hits a slump I have another to lean on. Good Luck in your search

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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 06:44:21 PM »
Thanks again for "all" your help/advice/words of wisdom.  I'd love to dive in but will proceed slowly.  I know what you mean about going with a cheaper machine, my vinyl cutter is low end professional and we have a few fights here and there.

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 09:12:55 PM »
I put 2 links below the first one is for nnep look and see if you are close to either one of these shows.

The first one or emboridery mart has just about every commerical embroidery machine at the show that you can see running.

The secong is put on by swf and only has swf machines there. I bought my machine used from swf the includes a warranty.

http://www.nnep.net/2010_embroidery_mart/Home.php

http://www.embroideryextravaganza.com/

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 09:53:40 PM »
Also check out the ISS shows, there is a wealth of information on machines and the different vendors. That was the first show I went to and bought my machine, hoops, garments etc. Had my head spinning and haven't looked back.

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 03:37:32 PM »
A good starter machine is the Brother PR650/620 or 600II.  You can find them used for about $5,000.  Also the PEDesign software is reasonable at around $800.00 I think.  You can digitize with it quite well.  There are many websites that have online classes that are very reasonable.  Sue Lough at http://www.memories-in-thread.net/?p=terms has very good lessons and tutorials as do other people online.

and Tory is right, it's nice to offer something else and in the long run it has worked out for me.  I started embroidering about 13 years ago with the home embroidery machine type combo.  When people needed stuff it sucked switching colors everytime, plus hats were a bear.  You can get a cap hoop but you have to flatten them and the stitch quality is awful.  There is a lot to learn on the embroidery stuff, not just digitizing but as a whole.  It would be best if you knew someone near you that could help you get started.  Backing, underlay, stitching, repairs, bobbins, threads, applique it's all very overwhelming.  I remember when I got my first machine it sat in the box for a month, I was scared to open it :)  And that's the truth!!! I knew it was going to be a lot to learn but here I am doing it everyday and loving it  :D

Good Luck and if there is ever anything I can do to help you along please don't hesistate to ask :)

Tracee

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2010, 07:44:47 PM »
I use one of the cheaper Brother machines for my small stuff. It will do small orders and simple designs well. Using StitchERA software. Corel's program is around $1500 I believe.

I sub all the larger stuff out. Not much of an embroidery market anymore when you can screenprint sooooooo much cheaper.

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2010, 08:29:46 PM »
Not much of an embroidery market anymore when you can screenprint sooooooo much cheaper.

Definitely a market for embroidery. Embroidery is a different media altogether than screenprint. Screenprinting IS cheaper but embroidery has it's place and most times looks much better

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 10:25:22 AM »
Not saying there isn't one.

But paying off a screenprinting set-up will be much easier than paying off an embroidery set-up.